We will not be erased!

Many of you have read/seen on tv/heard on radio (does anyone still listen) about the Trump Administration's effort to define gender as what you were born with and being unable to change your gender vis-à-vis the U.S government's definition of gender. Well:

No we won't.

Sadly, this isn't surprising. Seriously, f*ck this administration.

Such a cool mural!  Yes, less than 2 weeks now!!  Have already voted, but the Republican scumbags here in Iowa eliminated straight-ticket voting, and so, I had to mark the "Democrat" office runner on both sides of the ballot.

Jehanne wrote:Such a cool mural!

The technology for this is not new, video projection has been around a while now, but the intensity of the image has been greatly amplified.

There is a parking lot in San Francisco that clears out at night and a neighborhood local sets up his projector and the local (and sometimes not so local) neighbors come and see a free movie projected upon the flat windowless side of an office building. Bring your own lawn chair and popcorn and watch a movie - GREAT!

It is also possible to use these types of projectors to light up buildings, such as City Hall in The City with the Pride colors.
These projectors do not need 110/220v and can be setup on a camera tripod. What a great hit-and-run way to get a message out quickly and effectively.

Stef Sanjati's take upon it.

Thanks Celia. I didn't watch all of it but it is a useful and powerful message.

Not trying to deflect, but this is the first I have heard of this woman. Unsurprisingly, she made a point of mentioning she has not had GCS/GRS, much like myself. Unlike myself, her voice and facial features are decided female.

Well Miki, neither have I and I never will as I have explained many times here why my specialness will stay.

Interest is hot with this young woman, she has got 25,000 views in less than a day! She is incredibly beautiful and she appears very level headed, a credit to transgender women. I believe a young woman as wholesome as this could be a beacon, a good ambassador for us all.

My only downer with her is her tattoos, (I have also always openly admitted, as pushovery and unargumentative as I may well be, that I always pick a fault in any woman more beautiful than I, it's becoming a very, very, very oft pastime as I age, I must drop that habit!).

We need attractive, well spoken spokespeople for our cause. I realize this is not politically correct, but sometimes the messenger is more important than the message.

Celia Eriksson wrote:My only downer with her is her tattoos...

I was going to mention her ink also, but I didn't want to offend anyone. I simply do not understand tattoos - even though coloring your skin pre-dates most modern civilizations. There was a mummified copper age man, Ötzi the Iceman, found in the Ialian Alps who had rudimentary tattoos.

Many people, less sophisticated than us, see the drag queens and kings as representative
of transpeople. More people see RuPaul than Janet Mock, and I am glad we have some very persuasive spokespeople in our corner.

MichaelaSJ wrote:

Jehanne wrote:Such a cool mural!

The technology for this is not new, video projection has been around a while now, but the intensity of the image has been greatly amplified.

There is a parking lot in San Francisco that clears out at night and a neighborhood local sets up his projector and the local (and sometimes not so local) neighbors come and see a free movie projected upon the flat windowless side of an office building. Bring your own lawn chair and popcorn and watch a movie - GREAT!

It is also possible to use these types of projectors to light up buildings, such as City Hall in The City with the Pride colors.
These projectors do not need 110/220v and can be setup on a camera tripod. What a great hit-and-run way to get a message out quickly and effectively.

Wow, I thought that it was "real", but, then again, it was!!

Yes, those things are great, I remember the Queen's 50th, (She had a 60th too), back a while ago where the Union Flag was displayed on buildings throughout the UK at the time. Nice to see the LGBt flag there, (note the little 't', coz that's representative of how much support we truly get from the LGB bit).

God, things are happening over there fast! I have watched the BBC after my Whist night. I'm winding down with a glass or three, most unlike me to go three!, of Gascony and there is all kinds of stuff coming outta the administration!

Sundry thousands of Hondurans heading towards Trumpy trouble, albeit now in lots of small groups through Mexico and the white powder letters thingy! If you'd told me anything that has happened in the USA the last two years was gonna happen back in November '16, I would have said naaaaaaah, 'aint gonna happen...…

You poor Cousins, I hope you get at least one good candidate for Prezzy, with integrity, in 2020, coz I love America and my American Cousins. Better days in twain. Celia xx

We (I) love you, too, Celia!!  I am an American mutt, but pride myself on my English blood ("Flood" is my surname), and only for $99.95 (not sure what this in pounds), I get can an "authentic" genealogy of my Scottish/English heritage!!

Transgender persons were around for thousands of years. They can't just erase history. Not to mention, youtube has millions of transgender videos. But youtube randomly deletes videos nowadays so who knows.

Transgender used to be a genetic thing. But I think modern transsexuals are different from old skool transsexuals. Because they say there are modern chemicals nowadays that cause transsexualism nowadays. Our government gives us chemicals that give us female brains but male bodies. Then denies us the ability to wear women's clothes without being socially ostracized. Its just not nice.

In the womb the government pumps us all full of feminizing chemicals. So we get female brains but male bodies. Then they mutilate our dicks. And thus our begins our road to ruin and perdition, even before age 1.

Anyway, this Puritan infection of America has to go. America is being ran and controlled by ignorant religious retards. Transgender was a thing since 5000 years ago. If they don't like it, too bad.

The founding fathers were mostly agnostic. It's time we go back to the real America, not this Puritan J-xt crap.

If Democrats weren't so busy trying to ban our guns, things would have been easier. Democrats make themselves look weak and pathetic and would have no clout in terms of a civil war. Trying to ban our guns, when christian facists are trying to overthrow our nation, just makes them look like asses.

I'm pretty sure that the "ban our guns" narrative is mostly propaganda paid for by the NRA to scare right wing leaning folk, but that's a different topic entirely. As is the president's attempts at overriding the 14th Amendment, something that is more of a legitimate cause for concern.

In any case, we're being attacked, and the least we can do is get as many of those soulless f*cks out of positions of power as possible.

Anna Mull wrote:I'm pretty sure that the "ban our guns" narrative is mostly propaganda paid for by the NRA to scare right wing leaning folk, but that's a different topic entirely. As is the president's attempts at overriding the 14th Amendment, something that is more of a legitimate cause for concern.

In any case, we're being attacked, and the least we can do is get as many of those soulless f*cks out of positions of power as possible.

Agreed, and agreed. I have yet to meet a progressive politician who is in favor of a blanket ban of guns. There are many who favor more careful (or even basic) background checks, which even the NRA supported in the past--before it became a gun manufacturers' lobby group--but that is not the same as a ban. It's a red herring designed to stir up support.

The real issue is an administration that has indicated a willingness to ignore the most basic law of the land, or at least to threaten to, simply to pander to the worst instincts of its supporters. We need to exercise every legal means necessary to neutralize and remove these leeches. That includes voting.

Anna Mull wrote:I'm pretty sure that the "ban our guns" narrative is mostly propaganda paid for by the NRA to scare right wing leaning folk, but that's a different topic entirely. As is the president's attempts at overriding the 14th Amendment, something that is more of a legitimate cause for concern.

In any case, we're being attacked, and the least we can do is get as many of those soulless f*cks out of positions of power as possible.

What has the president done to attack the 14th amendment? Illegals are not citizens. On the other hand, gay refugees should not be sent back to Africa, or Arabia, there should be at least some form of mercy given to those who would be executed in their home lands. Maybe they could be moved to a non-homophobic African country where they wouldn't be executed by the Africans or Arabians.

And its a slippery slope. First you ban our rifles, then, when the school shootings STILL happen you will say banning rifles is not enough, and to ban everything else. Because none of you get to the root of why school shootings (and mass shootings) happen. Because America is a loveless shithole country, infected by Puritan moralities, with one of the world's shittiest education systems in existence.

You liberals never cease to amaze. You say Trump is litterally hitler, then you want to ban our AR-15's. Do you know the first thing Hitler did? He banned the guns of the mentally ill and jews. This was before even the holocaust. If anything, I think its liberals who are literally hitler.

So to clarify. No background checks. Legalize everything: AR-15s, handguns, grenades, machine guns, everything. Half of these school shooters and mass murders have a clean background anyway. Banning guns of the mentally ill is disablist and transphobic...many transwomen are registered in the mental health system. I view your attempt to ban my guns as a personal attack, since I have gotten mental health services in the past. So it seems like you want me to die by the hands of some random bigot. You want me to be unarmed while random bigots and criminals, are armed. You liberals literally complain about cops shooting unarmed people, and complaining about war, and then post shit like you want cops and military to have guns, but ban it from everyone else. You are fucking enraging. And I'm trying to be nice so I don't get banned from these forums. You have no idea the depth of contempt I have for you liberal types.

I seem to recall that Australia, after a very bloody school shooting had a voluntary turn-in of guns.

The Port Arthur massacre of 28–29 April 1996 was a mass shooting in which 35 people were killed and 23 wounded in Port Arthur, Tasmania. The murderer, Martin Bryant, had a subnormal IQ and intellectual disabilities. He pleaded guilty for the incident and was given 35 life sentences without possibility of parole.
…
Australians reacted to the event with widespread shock and horror, and the political effects were significant and long-lasting. The federal government led state governments, some of which (notably Tasmania itself and Queensland) were opposed to new gun laws, to severely restrict the availability of firearms. Concern was raised within the Coalition Government that fringe groups such as the "Ausi Freedom Scouts",[36] the Australian League of Rights and the Citizen Initiated Referendum Party, were exploiting voter anger to gain support. After discovering that the Christian Coalition and US National Rifle Association were supporting the gun lobby, the government and media cited their support, along with the moral outrage of the community to discredit the gun lobby as extremists.
Under federal government co-ordination, all states and territories of Australia restricted the legal ownership and use of self-loading rifles, self-loading shotguns, and tightened controls on their legal use by recreational shooters. The government initiated a mandatory "buy-back" scheme with the owners paid according to a table of valuations. Some 643,000 firearms were handed in at a cost of $350 million which was funded by a temporary increase in the Medicare levy which raised $500 million. Media, activists, politicians and some family members of victims, notably Walter Mikac (who lost his wife and two children), spoke out in favour of the changes.
See the full wiki article at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_%28Australia%29#Community_response

The world didn't stop spinning, hunters/ranchers/farmers could still get guns and even though the 1996 event was 22 years ago, Australia hasn't moved to take away EVERYONE's gun.

Angel, you are starting to act like your supposed nemisis Trump, throwing  unsubstantiated shit against he wall hoping some will bite and take the lies as truths because a high ranking official said something that matched up with your distorted world view.

Ohhh , thanks for sharing that, Celia

MichaelaSJ wrote:I seem to recall that Australia, after a very bloody school shooting had a voluntary turn-in of guns.

The Port Arthur massacre of 28–29 April 1996 was a mass shooting in which 35 people were killed and 23 wounded in Port Arthur, Tasmania. The murderer, Martin Bryant, had a subnormal IQ and intellectual disabilities. He pleaded guilty for the incident and was given 35 life sentences without possibility of parole.
…
Australians reacted to the event with widespread shock and horror, and the political effects were significant and long-lasting. The federal government led state governments, some of which (notably Tasmania itself and Queensland) were opposed to new gun laws, to severely restrict the availability of firearms. Concern was raised within the Coalition Government that fringe groups such as the "Ausi Freedom Scouts",[36] the Australian League of Rights and the Citizen Initiated Referendum Party, were exploiting voter anger to gain support. After discovering that the Christian Coalition and US National Rifle Association were supporting the gun lobby, the government and media cited their support, along with the moral outrage of the community to discredit the gun lobby as extremists.
Under federal government co-ordination, all states and territories of Australia restricted the legal ownership and use of self-loading rifles, self-loading shotguns, and tightened controls on their legal use by recreational shooters. The government initiated a mandatory "buy-back" scheme with the owners paid according to a table of valuations. Some 643,000 firearms were handed in at a cost of $350 million which was funded by a temporary increase in the Medicare levy which raised $500 million. Media, activists, politicians and some family members of victims, notably Walter Mikac (who lost his wife and two children), spoke out in favour of the changes.
See the full wiki article at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_%28Australia%29#Community_response

The world didn't stop spinning, hunters/ranchers/farmers could still get guns and even though the 1996 event was 22 years ago, Australia hasn't moved to take away EVERYONE's gun.

Angel, you are starting to act like your supposed nemisis Trump, throwing  unsubstantiated shit against he wall hoping some will bite and take the lies as truths because a high ranking official said something that matched up with your distorted world view.

You just don't get it. People these days are too soft to have the backbone to be a great leader. They will continue to "turn the other cheek" and let the government continue to erode away their rights day by day. 50 years from now when we are all living in poverty, forced to eat synthetic food and living in 6 foot cubicles, and the government has chips in us everyone will be so soft they wont even care, because they will be in virtual reality like that Ready Player One movie, to escape the world they didn't have the backbone to save.

35 people die and what do liberals do? Whine and whine about random people they never even met. Meanwhile, the US bombs 100,000 of people overseas and noone bats an eye. The Joker was right and always was. Liberals will say to ban guns from the civilians and give them to the Military, then say Trump is literally Hitler.

And shotguns and single shot rifles will not stop an army. Either Trump is literally hitler or he isn't. But if Trump is literally hitler why do you want to give up your automatic rifles, to a guy you think is literally Hitler? It makes no sense. Its nonsense. What I've come to expect from the liberals these days. And I use the word liberal loosely, a real liberal would fight for our rights.

Celia Eriksson wrote:

You might not get shot in London but it has lots of violent stabbings.

If you want transwomen in inner cities to not be allowed access to guns, then you are aiding the enemy.

angel, just trying to tickle your funny bone, but what is your favorite movie these two: Logan's Run or Soylent Green

Hi Angel and Miki!

Well Angel, although I don't go to London much these days, it is very cosmopolitan now and is not really representative of England and the no gun policy. Yes there are stabbings there but not among the English, even so the fatalities throughout the UK yearly are in the low hundreds as far as I know, (just looked it up 215 this year to November 1st whole of UK). London, being one very big city has most of those. Few guns are around, they are very expensive for perps to buy so don't cause a big problem.

Total murders UK 2017 was 640, even with the UK having a quarter to a fifth of the US population, 9,500 USA by guns alone should tell you something, that's near 14 times and with guns alone.

In my 58 years living in Europe, the only crime I had against me was my beautiful Dutch made Cycle being stolen from outside a railway station about ten years ago, it was brown and pink and fixed wheel with a big basket on the front. I loved that bicycle. I've also had regular beatings from a partner and a late Great Uncle grabbing me from behind when I was young, but those offences are not germane here.

Ya can't escape the yawning fact, guns are very, very, very, very, much a problem in the USA and there is no gettin' away from that and whatever you say will not change that!!!! Article 2 was designed in the way back when, for armed resistance to bad government, not for self defence against others with guns, or felony, as the majority are being used now.

As for those favourite songs Ms Miki, I've never heard of either, so I don't get the humour...… help! Celia xx

Soylent Green (The movie)

Soylent Green is a 1973 American post-apocalyptic science fiction thriller film directed by Richard Fleischer and starring Charlton Heston and Leigh Taylor-Young. Edward G. Robinson appears in his final film. Loosely based on the 1966 science fiction novel Make Room! Make Room! by Harry Harrison, it combines both police procedural and science fiction genres; the investigation into the murder of a wealthy businessman and a dystopian future of dying oceans and year-round humidity due to the greenhouse effect, resulting in suffering from pollution, poverty, overpopulation, euthanasia and depleted resources.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green

Logan's Run (The movie)

Logan's Run is a novel by William F. Nolan and George Clayton Johnson. Published in 1967, the novel depicts a dystopic ageist future society in which both population and the consumption of resources are maintained in equilibrium by requiring the death of everyone reaching the age of 21. The story follows the actions of Logan, a Sandman charged with enforcing the rule, as he tracks down and kills citizens who "run" from society's lethal demand—only to end up "running" himself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan%27s_Run#Plot_summary

So, Celia, I too can be obtuse as in counting by numbers...……….I'll let angel figure it out.